I agree!!

It's what they do ALL the time. it's because they are almost never wrong.
If something radically 'did' change as votes were counted, they'd take the state away.
These votes are just that, common sense projections. The swing states are not being called early for similar reasons. Ohio's is leaning Obama, it's not called. Virginia is close to done tabulating and is in Romney's favor - still not officially called.

It's just making for good TV. If they didn't do this, there'd be zero reason to watch any of this until about 11pm tonight.

Psst PHP, they were right.

Now we get to experience what is in the 2000+ page healthcare bill, if the people implementing it can even figure it out.

This is the kind of comment that poisons public dialog. No wonder you hide your identity.

I guess you never saw the article in the Wall Street Journal talking about voter fraud in Maryland?

What a sore loser...

OMG I'm soooo shocked. Maryland helped elect a drone murderer. Yay us!

Puffy, need a tissue?

I am a real fan of Fred Reed (http://www.fredoneverything.com).

Fred expatriated because of the Clinton/Bush/Obama growth in government, and continues to comment on how the US has changed for the worse.

I highly recommend reading his opinion pieces.

You mean like GWB did 8 years ago?

Oh, I know exactly what I voted for. I voted against a Republican congress that has no real plan to reduce the deficit. No rational human being can look at a 16 trillion dollar deficit and suggest it can be cut into without real revenue increases to go with severe spending cuts and tax reform.

The Grover Norquist pledge, combined with the Tea Party, were the beginning of the end for me as a Republican. Only an idiot doesn't realize how good we've had it in this country, even the past couple years. What's bad for us is twice as bad elsewhere. We Americans are spoiled, spoiled stupid.

There's a good reason all the rural states vote for Romney. It's called lack of education and wealth. Easiest to brainwash. Easy prey for the top 1%.
Massachusetts, by Romney's own words, consistently has one of, if not the top public education system in the country. Romney is getting massacred in his OWN state.

The wealthiest states in America don't vote Republican. They vote Democrat. Let's rattle them off:

California - D
Delaware - D
New Hampshire - D
Virginia - D in 08, toss-up now.
Hawaii - D
Massachusetts - D
Connecticut - D
New Jersey - D
Alaska - R

The wealthiest state in the entire country? Maryland.

http://247wallst.com/2012/09/20/americas-richest-states/3/

The reality is, all you right wing kooks need to find a rural state to move to. You'll be much happier.

Tim, I believe that you are incorrect that wealthy voters lean democratic. Poor city dwellers in urban areas vote democrat. Wealthy, educated people who run businesses and create jobs and economic progress tend to vote Republican. To suggest that more education would lead to higher dem votes is both arrogant and ignorant.

...you're doin' it wrong if you're paying a high interest rate these days, FYI.

Unfortunately, we ain't seen nothing yet. We'll soon be a 3rd world country with this guy. That is, if we don't get blown off the face of the earth first.

Cynthia, you'll fit right in.

She borrows a lot on credit cards.

so then I can say the Republican motto is "Give to the Rich, and Lets Start More Wars to feed our defense contractors, never mind the costs of human life fighting wars we can't actually win?"

cause really, that's all what they are.

I can make sweeping generalizations too.

No. The Republican message is you are responsible for your own life. The Government is not responsible for making anyone happy.

so basically, you're suggesting that we should just have the policies of third world countries then. Excellent idea. No wonder Romney got smoked. Just what businesses want, along with all their tax breaks.

He's about to lose the last two swing states: Florida and Virginia still counting. Almost done now.

If anything, you sound Libertarian, which should never be mistaken for Republican.

Our 44th President paraphrased Kennedy in his VICTORY speech.

Democrats, if anyone, believe in the team concept. Repubs typically think "I've got mine, you can fend for yourself."

Tim and Honey - The Federal Governments role is to keep one person from interfering with the rights of another. Another obligation is to protect the citizens from other countries. Anything else should be done at the state or local level.

When the Feds get involved, you get a one size fits all, expensive, inefficient, corrupt solution.

AG, You are spot on, nice to know someone here knows what Republicans stand for.

"The Republican message is you are responsible for your own life."

If you think unborn fetuses are living, then should the government take responsibility for them by passing anti abortion laws? Or should they be responsible for themselves?

Corbin Dallas Multipass said ‘If you think unborn fetuses are living, then should the government take responsibility for them by passing anti abortion laws? Or should they be responsible for themselves?’
I have at times thought we should raise the age that you can kill the child to 21 y.o. That does not mean I think the government should pay for the bullet to do it.

You mean like from the Homeland Security Department? You know, founded by GWB and the Republicans?

and extended by Obama.

Homeland security was formed by GWB and the Democrats. Only a fraction of the Repub congress voted for it. Obama radically increased its budget, scope and intrusiveness. If Obama did not like it, he would have reduced or eliminated it.

AG, there is only one set of facts. You are completely wrong.

http://www.thepoliticalguide.com/Votes/House/2002/367/

In the House only 10 Republicans voted no, while 122 Democrats voted no.

We must not forget.
"On December 31, 2011, President Obama signed the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), codifying indefinite military detention without charge or trial into law for the first time in American history. The NDAA’s dangerous detention provisions would authorize the president — and all future presidents — to order the military to pick up and indefinitely imprison people captured anywhere in the world, far from any battlefield. "
http://www.aclu.org/blog/tag/ndaa

Obama's NDAA Law Allowing Indefinite Military Detention of Citizens Ruled Unconstitutional
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/09/obamas_ndaa_law.php

NDAA Case: Indefinite Detention Injunction Does Irreparable Harm, Obama Admin. Lawyers Argue
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/14/ndaa-case-indefinite-dentention_n_1885204.html

Even though it was passed by Repubs, it was signed by Obama.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/112-2012/h291

Mr. Bradley: Yep, and I hold that against him as well.

Good luck. Let us know what country you find...

I'd be curious, too. Need some help packing?

SHUDDUP!!!!! I'm sick of your crying and whining when things don't go your way. I don't care if you leave or if you stay, just shut up already. We've listened to your bi*ching the last four years, please stop. If you or anyone else didn't like the outcome of the latest election, elect a better representative. One that doesn't have to lie (Mitt Romney) and cheat (all the states with new voter laws) to win your primary. The country is moving on, either jump onboard or get out of the way, but for Christ's sake, STFU!

>>>>>somebody wrote: "Well, well, well. So are you libbie nutters all ready to have your nose rubbed though the brown stuff? I'm so looking forward to it.">>>>>>
Actually, you'll have to tell us about that, as one with direct experience.
Last night was a clear & direct repudiation of a tired old, bigoted, misguided Republican Party.
Good triumphed over hatred and evil.
Lies, negativity, obstruction and the constant sowing of discord were soundly rejected by the majority of this country and the good guys won!!!
The Party of "No", Filibuster and Obstruction had better sit up, shut up and start doing the JOBS they were elected to do; which is enact the will of the American people.
Dems have won the last two presidential elections.
Barack Obama is THE WINNER
This is what the country wants.
Now, Repubs get over it!
You lost!
Quit your plotting, scheming, and whining & put all that negative energy into something positive for the good of all of us.!!!!!

Somalia should be perfect for you--low taxes, unbridled free enterprise (piracy), no gun control, and they threat women like crap.

What part of this state is the wealthiest, most educated? What part of this state is not?

Montgomery County would be the smartest. Garrett County would be the least smart.

lierry benks said: ‘Montgomery County would be the smartest. Garrett County would be the least smart.’

How do you come up with that conclusion?

I had to do a lot of research to come up with that, but feel free to prove me wrong.

lierry benks said ‘I had to do a lot of research to come up with that, but feel free to prove me wrong.’

I’m just wandering how you came up with your findings. Since you had to do a lot of research to come to that conclusion please share with us.

Frank commented about this being the wealthiest most educated state of the union so I was hoping he could share with us what would be the wealthiest and most educated and least educated areas of the state so we can find out what is making them so.

I don’t know how you determined how smart each county is or isn’t, but if you would share that we can look at that also.

Steven, I used the human trait of reasoning. Garrett County is full of wood splitting hillbillies while Montgomery County is full of college educated professionals.

Just the facts about percentage of population:

Garrett County:
HS Diploma - 85.9%
Bachelor's Degree - 18.4%
Montgomery County:
HS Diploma - 90.8%
Bachelor's Degree - 56.7%

http://comparisons.choosemaryland.org/Comparison/index.asp?

Have fun, do your own comparisons.

Thats hillarious Frank as it was the most uneducated people in this state that voted for and passed everything the MD Dems wanted.

FIFA, Have you even been to Montgomery county? If you're going to compare education why don't you also tell us how many of those people in Montgomery county are actually US citizens? Comparing Montgomery to Garrett county is rediculous. Going to Montgomery county is like visiting the U.N. Thats why there are so many of you transplants here in Carroll county.

lierry benks said: 'Garrett County is full of wood splitting hillbillies' I wasn't actually expecting a prejudice hater statement like that. Maybe I should have when we were talking about education and you changed it to how smart a population was. If someone decides to live a simpler life and heat with a natural green method does that mean they are not smart?
High School Attainment
Baltimore City
79.2%
Garrett County
85.9%
Does this mean we should make prejudice statements and make fun of people that live in Baltimore City?
Now if we look at Montgomery County we should be able to agree that we are looking at a population that is employed largely either directly or in service of the Federal Government. If we are looking at how we can spread the success of wealth and higher education would it be fair to say we can copy what Montgomery County does throughout the US?

Frank, should we be making fun of those living in Baltimore City? You seem to like to do that sort of thing.

Frank OK, you've made it perfectly clear that you hate non-whites. No need to keep beating the dead horse.

Was that directed at me?

I haven't made fun of or made hateful remarks towards anyone on this board or off of it. That was you that did that.

FIFA, Why would you personally attack Jack? I'm not having an argument with anyone. I asked Frank in Elkridge a question based on his statement that was commented on by lierry, I asked for an explanation of that comment. You provided data. Jack made a valid point of the data you provided. You made a personal attack on Jack and everyone that lives in his area. Why do you not like white people?

steven, I can smell your snarkiness in your comment [not argument if you wish] to lieery. No go ahead and deny it. I provided data without comment, then Ister Mister Jack chimed in with his smart aleck comment and in return, received one back

So stuff it.

LOL You've been drinking the Kool Aid.

By the sound of it, you're going insane. Please don't take any of us with you.

Please give us an education on what caused the decline of the Roman Empire. I want to read this. Clearly you are a highly educated individual and I would appreciate your inputs.

I am 100% sure that the fall of Rome was due to increased pressures that resulted from the size of the nation - and the relative strength of its neighbors. In a warring "world", where the Germans to the norther pressed further and further south, and the Romans continued to fight wars to her East and West against the Gaul's - it was becoming increasingly expensive and impossible to sustain the republic. The military complex was well paid, well educated, and largely christian. Friends were being given homes and did not pay taxes, while unrest and civil war taunted the empire - especially at its borders.

Wait a minute, that DOES sound familiar, an aristocratic majority, controlling all the wealth, all Christian, giving each other huge tax breaks, and unrest amongst the majority of the rest of the civil population.

Holy cow, its the Republican party.

I like the explanation in http://www.amazon.com/Collapse-Complex-Societies-Studies-Archaeology/dp/052138673X

The society grows increasing complex and inefficient. There comes a point where the complexity and bureaucracy becomes so severe that it can no longer be afforded, and resources and productivity of those who are efficient go elsewhere. The wars mentioned by Bad Stats only accelerate the decline, but do not cause it.

And on republicans starting wars, Bush, being a neo-con, should not be considered a real republican. The neo-cons were more like the democrats of the 1960's and 1970's. Because of both Bush presidencies the republican party was stolen by quasi liberals.

AG, it almost seems as if we would be better off with a weak central government with limited power and local governments left to deal with the day to day solutions of the citizens.

LMAO thats awesome, freedom of speech is a great thing but it could get you a visit from the secret service.....

Lorna says: "Steve is an even bigger DORK than Frank!!!"

Buzz, if you pulled your money because of 2 days of drops you are less knowledgable than I thought you were. Keep that up and you will be one of those that you complain about. Market timers always lose.

Warren Buffet says now is the time to buy stocks.

I think I will stick with Warren.....

'cuz I really want to put my money into something that pays less than 1%...

That's a brilliant investment plan! NOT!

I'm with you Buzz! I told the guys I pay to do my yard work their services are no longer required and now I'm leaving work early to go to the Arundel Mills casino to blow the money I would have paid them. Taking a look at what I can cut off so I can hold on to more of my money.

Consumer Sentiment is at a 5 year high.

http://news.yahoo.com/stock-index-futures-signal-flat-higher-open-101252143--finance.html

Beeker, I am going to start calling you "Wrong Way". Can you tell us when you start buying so we can start selling?

But conservatives have no problem giving "welfare" to corporations and wealthy people. It just takes a different form, subsidies, long term capital gains, dividend income, etc.

Well stated. People who receive don't understand that the givers can turn off the spicket and the money stops flowing. I stopped along with my friends. There goes the tax revenues.

Obama going to cut the military budget and MD will take a huge hit. Some doctors and more are joining because Obama care is a mess, no longer accept insurance and take only cash.

What's that do. The freebies all run to the ER and wait for 16 hours to be seen. One of my friends had a heart attack and went to the ER. No insurance. They released him after a day and a half with 2 prescriptions. They could not wait to get him out of there.

Where do you see the word "Nazi Like Pgopaganda" in the video? And you call others racists?

You don't have any money to invest. Maybe at Big Lots in the toy section. Without people like me you have nothing.

I didn't expect you to know who Leni Riefenstahl was.....

Maybe you should have somebody look her up for you.

"Without people like me you have nothing." People like you are the problem. You've spent over 40 years sucking on the Government's teat. You have never produced anything in your life. Total drain on the economy......

Steve I don't care who Leni Riefenstahl is show me on the tape where the words NAZI PROPAGANDA ARE USED? Even slow ones can see that. Or are you cooking again?

As far as - sucking off the government - how many lives you save Steve standing behind the counter at McDonald's?

Wrapping hamburgers does not count as producing anything.

Actually it does. It's Econ. 101 The people at McDonalds are producing and selling a product which in turn helps the economy.

Spending 39+ years sitting at a desk taking up space, putting in your 40 hours and getting a Gubmint Check every week has the opposite effect. It has a Negative effect on the economy.

You can't see the connection between Leni Riefenstahl and the Nazi propaganda the Neocons are pumping out now? Did you even watch the video?

What part of "But it has this sort of Wagnerian, Leni Riefenstahl quality to it that seems a tad jarring, at least a day or two after the election." don't you get???

steve is just a stupid idiot.

Frank does WHAT to cats?

You should be ashamed at yourself for demeaning McDonald's workers. At least they are working and I respect them for that.

Plus this coming from a guy that spent his entire career demanding free food at McDonalds.

To disrespect one McDonald's worker is to disrespect all past and current McDonald's workers. There are a lot of famous and powerful people that are ex employees.

http://www.marconews.com/news/2005/jun/07/ndn_james_k__glassman__even_workers_with__mcjobs__/?print=1

steve eats up the special sauce his lover gives him.

Id hate to think where frank puts forks!

You don't eat there because you hate blacks and they spit in your food.

Right in one, Steve. And most of them are doing that by taking under a LIVING WAGE that they can live on without social assistance programs.

I'll be blunt: People who are working 40 hours a week starving on the streets because their employers will not pay them a living wage that they can live on in this country is not acceptable to me in the slightest.
Neither is parents working 80 hours a week between the two of them, never seeing their children, and STILL not getting paid enough that their families can have a lower-middle class way of life without social assistance programs.

Which are the kind of people who the conservatives bash upon on a regular basis and who I REALLY would love to take the old metal gauntlet fist and punch their lights out PERMANENTLY.

If the Government forces companies to pay people more than they are worth, the companies will move to other states or other countries. Just look at Maryland, there has been no non-government job growth for years, while Virginia has boomed.

But all people, liberals and conservatives have compassion for the poor people, liberals and conservatives see how to fix it differently.

Liberals feel the compassion, and want Government to fix the problem. Of course that never works. Since the 1960's we have seen the results of things like the war on poverty. Giant government, and no change in the number of people in need.

Conservatives believe the government is the problem. But they believe the solution is charities. Studies have shown conservatives give a much higher percentage of their income to charities than liberals do.

For some reason, liberals have a very hard time understanding this is a difference or opinion in how to fix the problem. Instead they paint conservatives as evil or mean. They call names and wish for violence against those they disagree with.

All quiet on the Sanchez front.

He'll come back, just under another user name. But I think the moderator took care of him.

Because he had an extra-marital affair Buzz.

I smell that this is part of the cover-up. If he had an affair then so be it. Just smells fishy to me. How convenient, just throw an affair in there, that's a reasonable excuse.
It wouldn't surprise me if Patreaus is found as committing suicide within a year, just like Adm Boorda was years ago. These guys are sacrificing their lives literally in defense of our nation.
So the question is, Does Patreaus still have to testify? Is he being blackmailed? Are we really getting the truth?

Tom, I have this birth certificate question for you. I also want to know about the bombs planted in the twin towers that the CIA did. Can you tell me anything about Area 51? There is the monster in a lake in Great Britain too. Then we have this faked moon landing. Gosh, it just never ends.

"....then so be it." Patreaus went "All in" as the title of her biography of him states.
I wish our fearless Commander-in-Chief of the 1992-2000 days would have just resigned too when it was uncovered that he had an affair.

Yea right, that forty five cents to deliver a letter to Alaska to your relative's igloo is a pretty good deal don't you think?

Yes. I think Sanchez had his account suspended, I hope. He was extraordinarily childish as Joe was at times. Silly putty. We all pick on people, but the silly sex stuff is over the line.

1ke frank or fifa never get sexually frustrated since they have so many youngsters to chose from, like a kiddie schmorgasboard.

Buzz, unlike you, I refuse to let my inbox be filled with Patch comments. I have better things to do than that. I block all noreply@patch.com emails and thus don't get battered by that stuff.

Buzz, children/teenagers read the Patch. I always speak for myself. The stuff Sanchez said crossed way over the line and I did something about it.

J Umbridge's posts didn't cross the line, but I am always wary of new posters that come out of the blue to attack me. Ridicule me and I will return the favor.

I have my own reasons for using a user name that does not identify me. You choose to use your real name, congratulations. Sadly, there are too many loony tunes out there that I believe might do crazy things. Too many of them have guns. That does not include Frank or Steve who just love to torture you and you fall for it.

You might not like Frank or Steve, but I read their posts all the time, both of them are highly intelligent. (Frank and Steve, please send contributions to MENSA in my name as I am a member as well).

Buzz, I am real. I am intelligent. I have a reputation. You just don't like my speech at times because it is of a different point of view than yours.

Anybody got some BenGay? I just hurt my shoulder patting myself on the back.

What did you do fifa? did you whine to the mods? did your feewings get hurt you child molesting buttkissingpopusher?

funny fifa how you can insult in most evry post and as soon as someone returns the faver you whine like the stuck pig you are. whaaaaaa whaaaaaa mods help me!
whaaaaaa whaaaaaaa mods help me...

1ke is someone who rapes that 13 year old girl! thats why he glad homoscan now get married. marrying children is next up right 1ke? Can't wait can ya?

It's bad when they shut you up isn't it Steve. Bully! When you accuse someone of committing a crime and libel them who is the Bully?

The county does not think I'm weak. The phone never stops ringing.

I'm not messing with you. I jut spent an hour on the phone with my lawyer. He felt we should have dealt with you a long time ago.

If you libel my name one more time I will see you in court. That is a promise. That is the only way to deal with people like you.

Some things move slowly Buzz, but I am not done. Like a slow moving large meal of pasta. It gets there, but sometimes takes time.

Faux News? Alternet.org? Ha Ha Ha. Once a post starts with either these, you can ignore it because it will contain little or no truth.

Even Geraldo Riviera calls his co workers at Faux News "Liars" when it comes to their Benghazi fabrications.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/02/geraldo-rivera-eric-bolling-rumble-over-benghazi-circumstances-video/

So?

Steve, if that is the case, it's one instance where the 'echo room' is not working. I love that the people are blaming Obama for this.... when the Ambassador to Libya had heard rumblings for 2 months + that something bad was coming and didn't ask for more security until the last second and prevaricated on what kind of security he actually needed.

As soon as I heard that stuff, if I was in his position? Out of the country immediately or soldiers on every block around the embassy to prevent this stuff.

....or just travel fly to Tripoli to the Embassy.

Buzz, it goes like this. Obviously, Frank and Steve have not liked you for a very long time. You must have really pissed them off. Way before me. You don't defend me from attacks from people like Sanchez, I am sure not going defend you. Besides, I like Frank and Steve. :)) Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!

Buzz, your logic fails me. GWB sent 4,000 soldiers to their death in Iraq. Thirty thousand maimed for life. Hundreds of thousands of civilians dead. Where was your outrage then? How do you know the President "watched the event live". Fox tell you that. C'mon man, get real. It was a terrible tragedy and trying to pin it on Obama is pathetic.

The story was fabricated by the Romney Camp and Faux News Strictly to smear the President.

How many other Americans died that same day overseas?

Two of the people killed in Benghazi were paid civilian Contractors. They knew what they were getting into and took the risk for a paycheck. How do you defend against a mortar attack Beeker? Oh that's right you wouldn't know. You never served.

We see the world differently than you do RMI. Our guy won. Most of the losers on this site whine about why they lost. The fans in the "other" stands have come over here to taunt us. But that is not your view through your rose colored sunglasses. Wasn't your view before the election and continues to be your view now. Too bad.

RMI, for conservatives like you, they have yet to realize if you can't beat a black man with unemployment at 7.9 percent at the end of his term, can you ever win again as the country gets less white. Republicans nominate weak far right candidates and then wonder why they lose. You should own the Senate and you keep shooting yourself in the foot..

I wasn't "angry" before the election. I will admit the despicable actions of Republicans to limit voting are amongst the worst things an American could ever to do another American, hopefully that will now come to an end, though I doubt it.

Your party, as you are not an independent regardless of your claims, will lose in 2016 and for the foreseeable future. If you win, the country and freedom is doomed.

FIFA - you really do have too much time on your hands. You can certainly battle with other posters on and on and on. You must not have anything else exciting in your life other than these battles. I hope that one day, you do mature and learn to perhaps make your dig once and move on. The comments you and your crew make reflect more on you and your crew than those you are trying to insult. Other than politics, insulting other people is not a good path to success. It may give you a temporary rush, but all of your problems and deficiencies will still exist when the posters move on to their full lives. Businesses you are attempting to obtain work from will not respect you. Don't pick him because he sucks is not a good path to success in life. As to your point about "winning and losing", values and morals may not be popular, but that is ok. It may mean losing, but values and morals are our legacy to the next generation. One day, I hope you learn that. You should review some of the posts of the other posters you continually battle with. Many (myself included) did not like the antics of the Bush/Cheney regime either. You should read some books by motivational speakers. I would be a great help for your sadness and help you have a more fullfilling life. Try Zig Ziglar or Les Brown - two top notch writers and speakers. I hope you find some peace.

The Republicans will not lose if they WAKEUP and nominate candidates that are inclusive. I hope a younger candidate is chosen that relates to a changing United States of America. Yes, that does mean rich, poor, middle class and all ethnic groups.

Parkville Honey: They won't until they get past this idea of refusing to raise taxes in an effort to reduce the deficit we're leaving future generations.

Again, for everyone's info: I am all for major spending cuts in federal government. I'm just not stupid enough to think cuts alone will balance our budget. Apparently, the Republican party of today thinks it will. Never mind the fact federal taxes are lower now then in the past 50 years. Seriously. Look it up.

Like the president, I feel a ratio of 2.5 to 1 cuts/revenue increase is a more then reasonable standard to apply to our trillion dollar yearly deficit. Including some limited cuts to the military. That military that has no business fighting war after pointless war in the middle east.

Tim - agreed! Huge mistake by Romney question at one of the debates was - if you would get 10 to 1 in cuts to tax increase, would you accept? Romney - said no. He should have said - "Everything is on the table."
IF all would work well and tax increases go up AND it results in additonal revenue - that new revenue is projected to be about $100 Billion. Don't know for sure, but that is what I hear. So, if the deficit is 1 Trillion per year, we need at least $900 Billion in cuts. And that still would not completely reduce the current year deficit and we still have the old debt to pay off - and the demographics don't bode well for the future.
In both parties efforts to win at all costs, they did not remember they still need to govern. Agreed some comments - President Obama must lead. He could go down as a great leader in spite of all of his antics over the first 4 years if he would lead on this. I hope he does, but it does not seem to be a priority.
Many folks working with their accountants with year end planning about to get a big kick in the pants when they see they are looking at a $4,000 to $8,000 tax hit with the AMT patch not in for 2012.

LOL He was in a warm cubbyhole eating doughnuts and drinking hot coffee and going home to a warm bed every night...

TOMMY, give up on the Birther garbage. It makes you look like an idiot and most everyone disregards the rest of your post. Makes you look stupid.

None of your previous predictions came true, why are you blathering on now?

FOUR MORE YEARS - Get used to it.

You see what Fox Noise tells you that you see.

Hi Hal, heavy lifting here most of the day. Joe replaced by Sanchez, Eastsider respectful, TJ his normal self, Buzz getting buzzed by Steve and Frank, I need a break. Take over for me for awhile. One would think election day never happened.

Not all respect. He just won re-election, despite epic amounts of urban voter repression.
Just the respect of TJ and others, who are clearly in the minority in this country :)

This thread seems to be lagging on. I thought I noticed a familiarity with Sanchez. We'll see how that develops. I can't latch onto Beeker - too erratic. Time to go.

Sadly, our election history pretty much assured Mr. Obama would get another four years. Folks apparently get nervous bucking the system. Better to stick with the incumbent and pray. Only bad part is, that when this happens and the incumbent is pushing down a very specifically destructive path...the votes are interpreted to mean a "mandate"....and that of course, emboldens....yikes!!! The next four years will be a lesson I hope we all survive!

"I've answered you a thousand times. No more untill you get some teeth and start talking. It's time to change your pants."

Which translates from Buzzspeak into "You caught me in another lie."

Wrong interpretation my good man.....the country lost!!! and that includes folks of all races, creeds and denominations!

Steve, wait until you confer with Frank and 1ke before taking me on so you don't make a fool of yourself.

I commented on YOUR LINK. Your are posting your link to show I'm wrong and when I quote your own argument per your line, you call me a maroon;

You don't capitalize maroon Mr. Purdue with a MBA.

Why do you keep making a fool of yourself?

You voted for Obama and more government, not me. I'm simply saying do your job instead of playing basketball.

Read your own quote: "Are you arguing for a stronger involvement of government in the day-to-day lives of Americans and fostering a culture of dependency?

Remember WW II and how this country responded? He's your guy and you voted to show up for work and you called out sick, as usual.

"Remember WW II and how this country responded? He's your guy and you voted to show up for work and you called out sick, as usual."

This doesn't even make sense....

That's about the same number of homicides committed in the city. Are you saying you don't care about individuals.

You would have done well under Stalin. He didn't care about numbers of people that died either.

I can't believe you even went to school.

And listen since it appears you can't learn or maybe it's another problem you have, you don't start a sentence with numbers like 250. You write it out. Purdue graduate. In your nightmares maybe. You only need one, I repeat one period to end a sentence.

In the future check with Frank or 1ke before posting since you can't remember the simple things.

"You would have done well under Stalin. He didn't care about numbers of people that died either."

That's the number of people FEMA has working on Staten Island going door to door, Rube.

.....which equates to about 5 FEMA people per square mile, Rube.

What was it then? Dribble, a quote, a participle or a phrase? Take your pick Mr. Purdue. By the way I keep checking my inbox and don't see a thing from Steve.

A dignified person from Purdue would not referr to a person as Rube. Then again in your case is a dignified is a stretch.

1ke, I like your take on things. I would add to #2 - ...or think you are.

I have said this once before: Buzz reminds me of the old man who continually runs to answer the doorbell when there is nobody there. Now he has taken to stomping on the flaming bag of poo.

Bart, the word "poo" is really not appropriate in a family forum.

1ike, I've got people calling me all kinds of names accusing me of being in the KKK and ganging up to find stupid little things in an attempt to show me up and you are telling me to relax. I've got people accusing me of committing crimes and you want me to relax and just take it.

Here's the story 1ke, I'm real, I worked hard for my money and whatever I have accomplished. Then people like Steve/Robert and whatever else he uses and starts the crap and others jump on board like Bart who also joked about me attempting to be funny and commented a certain remark about me.

Read his stuff under his name Robert Armstrong. I've posted it before. I tried to communicate with him on an adult level and you can read the results.

You and whoever else in this could be plants from the county. I have exposed them before. I have left certain things left unsaid about the county but no more, because as long as I deal with pseudonyms it is impossible to tell.

Not one of this group has the guts or courage to reveal the truth on who they are. Do you think for one minute if I knew who they were and attacked their family how do you think they would react?

It's easy to sit back and tell me (a real person) to relax when people are libeling my name and reputation. If everyone would have the courage to use theri real names this crap would stop, but I don't have the power to do that.

You open your mouth about me again Bart and I'll tell people just what you said.

Sorry, J

Frank - It's Sparrows Point - for Pabst.

Bart, the word "poo" is really not appropriate in a family forum.

Sorry again, J!

1ke, it's just like your type to fire a shot and then as whom am I shooting at. No wonder it's takes three of your minds too try and deal with mine.

I'm on my knees, here, J!!! Have a great day.

Jeanne, stand on the sidelines and not say anything reminds me of the people walking past the man that bled to death on the streets of NY.

It's not you these clowns are acting vial against. I put out the facts and truth. That is something they don't know.

That's why I became cop. Somebody has to protect the sissy boys. At least when I walk around people open doors for me and if I go to a club girls and their boyfriends will often ask me if they can use the rest room and can they go to a certain spot in the club. Enough for tonight. Got a story to finish tomorrow on my court papers from the county and let my lawyer review it.

I've got to drop it, Buzz. Deal with your demons. Those demons have nothing to do with Frank or Steve. You have made yourself a sport, a real sucker, and you should withdraw from this forum.

It is more than you can handle in your frail state. Get some help, not a lawyer.

I can damn well guarantee I haven't wrote 28 pages to you. (or anybody else for that matter)

LOL I never sent any complaint to anybody. I have Big Boy pants!

I sued the county numerous times and never lost. Why ruin a wining streak?

You left out the criminal charges. You got mouth put your last name out there, but I doubt it, your have to be just like them.

Need I say more? You're all real men, hero, brave, unafraid. I know you from the Sun Blog and the wind is blowing the wrong way.

We know how good BlOb is on predictions. Bet against the BlOb.

Rob you are definitely correct - with the exception of most of Montgomery, most of PG and Baltimore, MD IS red. Unfortunately I think most or the republicans and independents in MD almost feel like its a waste of time to cast a vote because they have a sense that the state is owned by the democrats. It's a shame because if folks showed up, things could change. How anyone, D or R, could vote for an incumbent after the past few years defies rational explanation. I was encouraged by the fact that only 52% went for Cardin. Until we have term limits on career politicians, things won't change much - it's just a sad fact. Would love to see an R in the state house and flush out "the Mikes" as well. Sick of those a-holes running the state.

"Rob you are definitely correct - with the exception of most of Montgomery, most of PG and Baltimore, MD IS red."

LOL. First, that's flat uneducated. In addition to MoCo/PG/Baltimore he also took Balt. County, Howard County and Charles County by HUGE margins. You pretending like Romney carrying a few, tiny, negligible rural counties means the state is red is hilarious. You could say the whole country is red if you want to pretend like the sqft of farmland means anything.

Have a look for yourself. Romney won 18 counties in Maryland.

http://www.politico.com/2012-election/results/president/maryland/

I'm just pointing out that if the republicans in this state would vote then this state will be the Red State that it actually is instead of the worthless, lazy, selfish, Godless Blue state that people thinks it is.

Well when you call the cattle to feed they know where to run. It's a shame that you live in a world that continues to hold people down and creates the suffering that they live in for your own gain. Baltimore will always be the dead end in the lives of the people that think they are voting themselves prosperity. Every democrat controlled state is in decline and the people that keep voting for it never seem to get out. I'm glad you're happy to be a part of that.

Rob, that is one of the dumbest analyses I have ever read. Your guy lost by over 20%! We count votes not counties. Why don't you just count rednecks?

Good lord, Rob. You cannot be serious. Just move to Mississippi and be happy, please. Apparently us blue states (specifically, us living in high income, well educated blue counties) can't hold a candle to the red states. Please, enjoy.

I'm stating the facts. Every where there is democrat control there is massive poverty debt, murders, crime. There's Greece, The UK, California, New York, Detroit, Baltimore, Spain. They all live by the democrat philosophy of high taxes and spending and taxing the rich and blah, ba blah, blah whatever else you morons keep failing at. Sorry you can't hide from your stupidity.

Hilarious, Rob. Flat hilarious.

No, seriously, what part of the world do you think shows the success of conservatism if pointing to London, Madrid, Athens, NYC etc. shows the failings of liberalism? You're pointing to the cultural and economic engines of our species as terrible things?! How hilarious is that! You think that's insulting to call NYC or MoCo or DC or London or San Francisco liberal? You compare that to the Red, uneducated, poor, rural areas of this country and you think doing so proves liberalism is a failure and conservatism is a success? Are you insane? How many years of home "schooling" does it take to be so blind to the world beyond whatever redneck town you live in or wish you lived in?

Hmmm, let's see California used to be a republican state and was very successful until the liberals took over. Texas is probably the best state economically right now in the united states. China even though it is a communist country is using the conservative economic ideology only it's the government using it and not allowing the private sector. Obama and Nanny Bloomberg both agreed that government was the problem when they had to lift regulations to deal with the aftermath of Sandy. Getting government out of the way is a conservative path to getting things done and that's what both of them said had to be done to get that done. I don't have the time to do any more research but I just want to point out that you couldn't disagree with what I said.

LOL. Please, read a book, Rob. Texas? Texas?! Texas - the minimum wage capital of the country - is the shining beacon of conservatism? Never mind the fact that, like any state, counties and cities with actual economic, cultural, scientific, and technological value (Austin & Dallas, in your suggestion) are democratic strongholds. Just because Texas has a large enough low-wage, uneducated white population to overpower the Austin voting block doesn't prove much.

China?! lol. Try explaining that to an actual, educated conservative without them laughing in your face. I dare you.

Again I don't see you disagreeing with me about your liberal states. I'll get to researching your claims which I'm sure your wrong simply because you believe in liberalism. But yeah China is doing business in a free market capitalist system. They are playing tricks with their currency to keep prices down but their regulation are nowhere near what it's like to do business in America hence the reason businesses are moving jobs there. And even the effects Obamacare is going to move medical jobs over there also. So again liberal policy are failing the American public.

I've never sent an e-mail Bonehead.

I always thought you could shoot your mouth off for free, but one month.

I can, the system can't. They work 8-4.

Agreed!

Paul and Mellisa, this is like a talk show. Ever listen to Ron Smith, C-4, O'Reilly among others. There is always debate with adults, but these guys are not adults.

I'm a real person and have a reputation to uphold. These guys follow me everywhere. If you thing I'm going to standby and have them call me a pervert that goes after children without fighting back you and Paul have issues.

I did not start this stuff. The only way to stop it is with the law and hopefully it will stop a lot of others like them.

The only person cyber stalking around here is you Beeler. I don't think anybody else cares. You are the only one with the Queeg like obsession.

Fortunately for him he has an army of idiots that continue to bang that drum for him. He doesn't look classy - he looks weak. He is nothing but a politician. He has no desire to work with the congress. His version of compromise is for his political opponents to sign off on his weak minded plan. I wish they would simply go along with him so we can finally see that raising taxes will not work - it sounds great to the morons, but history has proven differently. The right doesn't hate Obama for the coormofmhos skin - they simply don't respect someone who has more interest in raising political capital that improving the country. You made the mistake of voting for a pop icon instead of a leader. Race has nothing to do with my choice to vote against him.

LOL You can Huff and you can Puff.

http://www.digital-digest.com/news-63348-IP-Address-Cant-Be-Used-To-Identify-Individual-Judge-Rules.html

Great quotes there, Frank. It shows how insane Balt Observer is when you throw his own quotes right back in his face.

He need to wake up and realize that the only people trying to 'rub their noses in the brown stuff' are the Republicans who are lapping up what their rich patrons leave in the toilet.

Lorna, what you miss is that those people aren't 'living on the farm' no more and many of them have 2+ jobs that they are working. The problem is that our minimum wage is nowhere near being a LIVING wage without social assistance programs.

You want to keep whining about the social assistance programs? Then pay 2 times what you do for most groceries and other things. Oh, you don't want to do that?

Then please shut up, to be blunt.

I'm seriously getting tired of hearing nitwits who have absolutely no idea how the poor actually live flapping their jaws on this subject. I actually do have poor relatives who I visit with regularly and know how they live. It's not something that growing up in a middle class home I would want to do.

Lastly, you make the assumption that ALL people are cut out for running their own business or 'higher education'. That is not true in the slightest, especially the latter with the memorization and regurgitation system that we call 'education' today.

What "giveaways"?? That's a myth. You are Nuttier than a Fruitcake.

Agreed, Steve. She keeps on whining about 'giveaways' without realizing that to be on welfare and other social assistance programs, you either have to be so disabled you cannot work or have to be working.

If you are not currently working, they will FIND you a job (if any are available). Then you have to take that job and work at it whether you like it or not to keep on getting social assistance dollars.

I have a friend who works as a social worker and she was truly appalled at the mis-characterizations and outright lies that I showed her from the right-wingers on here.

Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

- Dr. Seuss

Which that would be the conservatives and Republicans, Lorna, who are trying to keep the black men/women, Latino men/women, and all the non-white races down.

The ones who are doing the abusing are the conservatives who allow:

1. Rampant outsourcing.
2. Corporations (2/3rds of them at last count) to pay nothing in taxes each year or even get money back from the federal government while their workers are on social assistance programs.

I could keep on going, but I think you get the point.

The conservatives have been selling this LIE that if you work yourself to exhaustion and beyond, that you will 'be rich' one day. Not with the stacking of the deck against you that the CONSERVATIVES have lined up in the way of the poor and non-whites.

Signs of a government employee are felt in your postings Lorna...interesting perspective...once again when people are presented with a choice between the vague they know and a vague they don’t know, they will pick what they know. Quite simply, this is what has occurred....we remain in grey..

Agreed, Steve. It's sad that Lorna has been so brainwashed that she cannot realize that she just described the Republicans in her post, not the Democrats.

I'll be honest: I'm beginning to think her, Balt Observer, etc. are paid Republican trolls, paid to post the same inane comments in every thread even tangently related to politics.

There you go...you little sweetheart you....grab for the race card...quick! It must be tough to lack the intellectual fortitude to get beyond the race card... It just won't work darling...give it up!!!

Simple:

1. Poor relatives who I visit on a regular basis.
2. Volunteer on a regular basis.
3. Friends who work as social workers and can show me (without going into specific names) how people on social assistance programs actually live.

I bet you do not have even ONE of those things in your corner nor something comparable, now do you?

Lastly, we will keep on painting ourselves 'righteously' because that is what we are: The angels in this discussion while you people are the slavering misers or WORSE who are jealous of every single dime the poor earn or are given so that they do not starve to death, even with CODICILS on that latter money so that they do earn it.

No, that pretty much equates to you, Lorna. That 'brainwashed' appellation that you love to throw around.

I'm not brainwashed..... I just T H I N K on my own and don't paint over reality with a Red brush like you conservatives do.

No, talking to people like you is like talking to a brick wall because YOU have been brainwashed and probably battered as a child with the "BE CONSERVATIVE OR GO TO HELL!" from your parents.

I live in the real world. Enough said, over and out.

What makes you think I am bitter, darling? Not at all. I am blessed to know folks of many different races and many different cultures and I don't really think you and your crew have a clue. You all have no idea of what you speak..you just ramble the same old brainwashing verbiage...when all else fails. Sad, very, very sad.
Well it has,l as usual, been enlightening, but I really must call it a night. Be well!!

Sad thing is that is exactly what the Republican party is today: The party of old bitter white men with the token woman or black, usually brainwashed with the idea that conservatism has 'made them rich'.

Sorry, I am not familiar with such a party. So, don't try your little brainwashing techniques with me...you obviously have not been taught by the big boys and girls. Seek help in that area..
Now I really, really must call it a night. Have a good rest honey child and try to come up for air with that silly "bitter old white people" crap. It doesn't bit...so you really, really, must quit! :-)

And you, sir, might look for another forum, one where your perspectives are automatically respected.

Big difference between a lack of respect and abuse. Calling people racist in nearly every single post is just abusive. You can treat people with respect even when you may disagree with them.

Hi Buck...love the way you so succinctly put things in a historical perspective.."once again when people are presented with a choice between the vague they know and a vague they don’t know, they will pick what they know." Just had to get into this one..missed the "heartfelt" interchanges. :-)

It had nothing to do with you, but here you are breaking your arm trying to pat yourself on the back. Bogus. Report back after the trial.

LOL Do you have any idea how Baltimore Mag performs these rankings??

Well, I am too. It shows how little the people understand economics.

Steve & Frank, since you guys seem to know everything, how do you think we should fix the economy given:

1. The Obamacare layoff's have begun
2. Overspending is way more than we can tax the rich to take care of.
3. Rich folks are expatriating in record numbers
4. The social security trust fund is empty (There are only IOU's from the general fund in the trust fund)
5, Gun sales are at record levels
6. People from about 20 states have petitioned the White House for permission to secede. Two are close to 25,000 signatures for formal consideration. (Note: This is an indicator of the how divided we are, I am sure the White House will not say OK)
7. The President has never compromised on anything. It does not look like the house will either.

You guys are so smart, please share your wisdom.

Frank, is "400,000 people have petitioned Macy's to drop all connections with Donald Trump." the best you could do to answer the question?

Is that right. Then why did I just put up you whole profile from your days as Robert that go back several years.

Yes copies hold up in court. I spent 39 year in court using copies. I have word documents on both you and Frank. You write it I copy it to word.